Ethics governance salon - intro
- Claims: ‘transitional ethics are bankrupt’
- are ethics possible, can we address them without conventional frameworks
- Moral relativism
- False binary - either traditional/dogmatic reality vs libertinism, in reality there are many shades

Universal framework/concept of reason
-ethics based on nature:
‘surely our nature is just how we are right now’
-ethics based on science, but which truths does science addres. is truth something that will lead to a good/society/virtuous society
BUT scientific approach can be something else. [Sam Harris]
Kant - hmm
‘Veil of ignorance’
Discourse ethics: consensus on what is reasonable out of linguistic ability

^^ all universal ethics which fails to take into account divergent thinking

Post modern:-
plural consensus - we have this is you consider a global population..?
power via coersion/persuasion
post structuralist
- Foucaut..(spelling?)

Q. What is the goal of our ethical system? Prevention of harm? Universal appplicability? Transparency? Accountability?

Deluze:
How *can* we behave, given what we have:

Discussion:
Specific dilemmas -
Consent to be held accountable by our peers
Aims - enforce cohesiveness at the epensive of al other things (happiness)
believe in a universal or not?
don’t believe in it
disrupting the peace - we should stop thinking about it as peace, is there is a disruption, there is no peace.